final feed back

These are the comments and feedback we received from our class and other classes. telling us what they thought our final thriller opening sequence. they also commented which aspects were good about the rough cut and which were bad. so there is both positive and negative. We found all comments extremely useful and it was good to know what people really thought of our thriller, and whether it worked or not. when people watched our thriller we conducted some questions for them to answer, this really helped us to get the answers we were looking for.

Mise-en-scene:
Does it look authentic?
* yes because the special effects used are really good. it really adds to the thriller.
* because of the props and setting used, the thriller has become more authentic, its excellent. it is also creepy in a way.
* yes and you real feel like you could get into this film after watching the opening.
* yes it looks authentic however looks a bit like a horror.
How do you think the mise en scene helps create a sense of genre?
*the photos and photo album help add creepiness to the sequence giving it a thriller aspect.
* all the props used especially the eye helps add a sense of stalking and invastion, this a key thriller convention.

Cinematography:
how do you think the cinematography effects the viewer?
* the camera angles and close ups make you feel on edge and builds tension.
*the framing as everything seemed to fit.
which piece of cinematography did you think was particularly effective?
* when the photography book moved on it's own.
* the close up of the eye.
* the whole abstractness and fast shots.

Editing:
how has the editing been used to create meaning?
* The editing really caught our eyes as it is very different. we liked the fast pace of it and all the other different techniques used such as the flash shots as they help to keep the fast pace.
* The blurry images and use and contrast of colour and black and white was really good.
* The effect at the start helps to build tension.
what do you think of the chioce of transition types?
* cross dissolves work really well and is effective makes it creepy.

Sound:
is it appropriate for the style and/or genre of the sequence?
* yes it goes really well.
* yes it's scary and weird which makes it a fit in with the genre.
*helps add suspense and tension.

Overall effect:
did you like it and why?
* We really like the way that questions are left unanswered, it makes you want to view the film.
* yes, it's freaky and scary as the shots are fast and snappy with an interesting music sequence.

what mark would you give it out of 10?-5 groups
* 7 out of 10
* 8 out of 10
* 8 out of 10
* 8 out of 10
*9 out of 10
this came to a total of 40 out of 50
and an average of 8 out of 10 =80%

final cut.

this is our final video.
enjoy!

more development

From our last blog we have really developed our ideas further. we have all come to the conclusion that we are no longer using humans and characters as props as we believe it can add a amateur look about it. we have also agreed not to use any of the darkroom footage as this also decreases the professionalism about it. so instead we are only using our footage of the slow watery ink and the sketch book stuff. we also thought we would include the shot of Brit's eye as this adds a creepy, personal touch to the sequence.
we have done another rough cut, however we were unable to place this onto our blog, so have gone ahead and started to finish our final cut.
we also have found a band called Autechre which we really like. so we may use one of their songs for our music, however as one of the criteria for our thriller is to invent our own music we are going to cut some of their songs up and swap them around so that we have changed it to our own. we will also include our own music which we will create on garage band.

order of clips

we were finding it difficult to know what order to place the clips in to make sense. so this is the list we hope to order our clips in:
* ink in water with titles
* water- running out of tap.
* films hanging and chain.
* more ink and titles.
* dark room- changing of the dials, then to the developer and then the sliding of the shutter.
* ink and titles.
* flash of someones face or eyes.
* ink and titles.
*sketchbook-flicking through and close ups.
* final title of item 13
*reverse of sketch book.

rough cut feedback

These are the comments and feedback we received from our class, telling us how they thought our rough cut could be improved and what they thought we should add. They also commented which aspects were good about the rough cut and which were bad. We found all comments extremely useful and used them to improve our final piece.

Mise-en-scene:
* The setting of the photography room was very effective and different.
* Good placement.
* We liked the magnum title as it also linked to photography.

Cinematography:
* We really liked the camera angles especially the close up ones.
* We thought the framing was good, and the way that everything seemed to fit.
* If you were thinking of improving some camera aspects you could think about adding different camera angles such as long shots and establishing shots but apart from that every thing was ace.

Editing:
* The editing really caught our eyes as it is very different. we liked the fast pace of it and all the other different techniques used.
* The blurry images and use and contrast of colour and black and white was really good.
* The effect at the start is very nice, although the whole footage could be shorter.

Sound:
* There is no sound at the moment, and this could be useful.
* We would really like to see some eerie sound effects on this, it would draw the whole thing together.

Genre Conventions:
* We really like the way that questions are left unanswered, it makes you want to view the film.
* Some groups felt that they did not know what was happening and was confused about the name also as there is no main title.



From this feedback we have come up with some bullet points which we think will improve our thriller. (these are the points we really need to focus on over the next week.)

* Sound both non diegetic music and diegetic.
- The non diegetic should be eerie and suspenseful as well as different, we would love the music to be sort of electronic and distorted.this would match the montage editing of our thriller.
-The diegetic should be effects that match the images being flashed and should chance between the fast pace and slow pace. for example the sketch book flicking through pages.

* Editing this should be done in a montage way, so that questions are left unanswered, but still clear to the viewer, the editing should also be suspenseful and add tension to the viewing. it needs to be cut shorter and a main title needs to be added. need to add more titles.

* Cinematography should be improved by the camera angles. we should include a establishing shot as well long and mid shots, this will help vary our thriller. make sure the framing stays similar throughout.

* Mise en scene this could include more props including maybe human or character- although this may change the montage effect we are going for. we could also include more sketch book stuff as this seemed to be effective. we also think that we should take out some of the dark room stuff as it looks unprofessional.

* Genre conventions make it more clear to viewer what is going on and add titles.